The popular duo M.Y.M.P. (Make Your Mama Proud) behind the hit albums Soulful Acoustic (2003), Beyond Acoustic (2005), Versions (2005), New Horizon (2006) and Now (2008) is breaking up. Yes, you read it right. Juris Fernandez and Chin Alcantara, who recently won as the Group Artist of the Year at the 1st Philippine Movie Press Club (PMPC) Star Awards for Music is heading the split.
The rumor was confirmed positive by talent manager Noel Ferrer and the news was later dished by Star columnist Ricky Lo. Here’s a snippet of the Funfare scoop about the reason of their break-up.
Juris quit the duo after Chin “booted” her and her manager Carla Lozada out due to disagreement over an “exposure” in the A.S.A.P. Sessionista.
Juris is slated to launch her long-overdue solo album under Star Records, with five songs produced by Chin. The other original cuts were done by Jimmy Antiporda, Ryan Cayabyab and Gary Valenciano.
But still, Juris and Chin still have commitments as a duo until end of this year and they will honor them.
Now supporters of the duo comprising the famous singing group, Juris and Chin, are sharing their thoughts about the issue, and the allegations regarding the break-up. We received an email thru our Facebook account covering the two sides of the splitsville, one from a supporter of Juris, the other from a supporter of Chin. Sino ba ang mapagkakatiwalaan at dapat nating simpatiyahan?
Read the two sides of the story and you decide!
Subject: “JURIS ABANDONS MYMP. MYMP MOVES ON WITH A NEW SINGER.”
Comments on the Internet of Barbara Barbaro of PUP, Manila. Reprinted by a friend.
1) Walang kamoti-motibo si Chin para mag threaten kay Juris o kay Carla Lozada man:
A) Si Chin pa nga ang nag-encourage kay Juris na mag-record ng isang solo album, for the sake of variety, because Chin believed in Juris more than Juris believed in herself. Alam ng mga close friends nila yan. Chin is the producer of Juris’ soon-to-be released solo album.
B) Kilala sa band circle ang pagkabatikan ni Chin sa pag self-evolve ng mga bandang pinamunuan niya, from rock band, to show band, to acoustic band, and back to full band. Kasama na dito ang subok na kakayahan niyang mag-arrange ng love songs, soul music, RnB, jazz, at light rock.
C) Hindi maikakaila ang “craftiness” ni Chin sa pagsanay at pagpapatingkad ng talento ng sinumang mapili niyang bokalista, babae man o lalaki. Iyan ay hindi nagawa ng mga dating nakabanda ni Juris.
Kaya mahirap paniwalaan ang naturang bintang. Ang alam ko ay madaling natanggap ni Chin ang eventual departure of, but not the deplorable and high-handed treatment he received from, Carla and Juris. He has bigger and novel ideas to pursue as founder and leader of MYMP.
2) Ngayong malapit ng i-release ang solo album ni Juris, huwag namang gumamit ng threat-gimmick promotion ang mga handlers ni Juris at Chin’s expense.
3) Itong si manager Carla Lozada ay talagang natuto nang mag-dirty tricks buhat ng magka-boyfriend, na anak ng isang ABS-CBN bigwig, na inagaw niya kahit malapit na sanang ikasal yung lalaki.
4) Below the belt yang threat-gimmick promotion na iyan. Minahal din ni Chin si Carla. They lived-in for more than 4 years. During those years ay kinupkop si Carla ng pamilya ni Chin at itinuring na higit pa sa isang miyembro ng pamilya, hanggang sa lumaki ang kita niya upang makaupa na ng apartment. Kahit bukod na sila ng bahay ay may ilang taon pa rin silang on. Chin moved on after their breakup. He is moving on now, after professionally breaking up with Juris, and will continue to evolve like many times before when he parted with Nina, Brix Ferraris, Jimmy Bondoc, Fritz Ednacot, etc. Said partings happened without the pompous maneuverings (pagmamarangya) ng mga handlers ni Juris.
5) Wala namang ganyanan. Kaya tinanggal si Chin ay dahil hindi na niya masikmura silently ang pandidikta sa kanya ng mga planong patungo na sa kabakyaan na naayon sa manipulation ni Carla at ng kanyang mga co-conspirators. Sanay na sanay na nga si Chin sa pag-o-organize at pagre-reorganize ng mga banda. Ang ginagawa ng mga handlers ni Juris ay nilalagyan ng media spin ang sulsol nilang mag-solo na agad si Juris, at si Chin ang fantasy villain sa media spin. We don’t want that to happen, do we?
6) Sinong may matinong pag-iisip ang maniniwalang coincidence lamang ang nalalapit na launching ng solo album ni Juris sa paglabas ng mahalay na threat-gimmick promotion na iyan?
7) Bakit pa magde-demanda si Chin? Eh, di lalong magkaka-media mileage yang threat-gimmick promotion nila, at sa mas murang halaga pa. At isa pa, madaling palusutin ng corporate lawyer ng mga bumu-bully kay Chin na wala daw malice ang PR writer, diyaryo, at source (sic). Even the lawyers of Chin say, “We will be playing into their hands kapag nagdemanda tayo. Who wouldn’t see through their gimmick, anyway?”
8) Alam ng mga fans na naging very protective, like an elder brother, si Chin kay Juris sa mga madilim na panahon noong sinalbahe si Juris ng nakarelasyon niyang kabanda na two-timer; noong may boyfriend siyang may asawa na, during her senior year in college; at, noon din may karelasyon siyang Cebu DJ na may girlfriend na noon.
9) Chin believes that his and Juris’ talents are enough to make the solo album project (not this messy start of her solo career) a success. Kaya tigilan na iyang counter-productive na threat-gimmick promotion na iyan. Siguradong magba-backfire lang yan.
10) Remember what Chin said just recently to his sympathizers, “All good things come to an end. Every ending is a beginning…I’ve forgiven them.”
Subject: “THE TRUTH BEHIND MYMP’S SUPPOSED BREAK UP.”
Comment of Cold Water Douser on Ricardo Lo’s article
A) Mr. Lo’s title is misleading. MYMP didn’t break up —-Juris wanted to go solo with the confirmed urging of Carla and her backers. It is natural for well established bands to periodically change its members or reorganize, and this is such a period. Chin was the victim of a coup de tat.
B) Mr. Lo wrote, “…Noel (Ferrer) called up the manager to congratulate him (it’s a her, Carla Lozada, not a him) and MYMP and that’s when he got a little shocker.”
Obviously, neither Noel Ferrer nor Ricardo Lo were in the know about the past three month’s ramblings between Chin and Carla, to become “a little shocked.” However, if they were quite knowledgeable of such ramblings, the word “shocker” suits a questionable purpose to be consumed by fans.
C) “Nalungkot ako,” sighed Noel. This sighing implies regret. But if Mr. Ferrer is a friend of Carla from whom she asked the favour to receive an important possible award, weren’t they that close to have shared “shocking” inside info months before?
D) Mr. Lo wrote, “Juris quit the duo after Chin “booted” her and manager Carla Lozada out due to disagreement over an “exposure” in the A.S.A.P. Sessionista.”
How can Mr. Lo say, “quit…after being booted out?” It’s a contradiction. Mr. Lo purveys Juris’ quitting as a reaction to her being booted out. But, if a person was allegedly booted out, how can a booted-out person still quit? A booted out person must either accept it, or protest it. The use of the word “booted out”, again, suites a questionable purpose putting Chin in a very bad light.
How could have Chin possibly “booted out” two members, only to be left alone by all? He did no booting out. He was the victim of a coup de tat. And we all know that a coup de tat does not occur overnight. It involves planning supported by co-conspirators. Who were they? Hmm. Hmm.
E) Mr. Lo wrote, “Added Noel, ‘Juris is slated to launch her long overdue solo album under Star Records, with five songs produced by Chin’…” There we have it! That’s the crux! Close MYMP fans know that Chin was the evolver of the band’s recording genre: from acoustic recordings (2 CDs) then to full band recordings (which comprised the rest of MYMP’s CDs). Chin wanted to produce, since a year ago, a solo album of Juris as a continuation of his evolution, for listening variety. Chin wanted a Juris solo album project, not an immediate Juris solo career.
That was Chin’s mistake. This is now all about money for every lurking predator. Remember what Juris said in a broad sheet? She declared then, “My recording career started with MYMP. It will end with MYMP.” Would Carla and her co-conspirators stop luring Juris after she said that? The Beatles sang, “The best things in life are free, but you can give that to the birds and bees. Just give me money…”
F) Mr. Lo wrote, “No, Juris won’t be using her M.Y.M.P. ‘connections’ anymore.”
The so-called MYMP connections are constantly being used by Carla Lozada, not by Chin nor Juris. She controls the bookings of the band. Chin simply overheard Carla transacting with a prospective client saying something to this effect, “…Ok lang, kahit split na kami, buong banda pa rin ang tututog sa concert ninyo, at huwag kayong mag-aalala na baka masira ang expectations ng mga sponsors at ticket buyers. Di na kailangang palitan pa ang mga tarpaulin at baguhin ang mga advertisements.”
G) Mr. Lo wrote, “According to Noel, Chin told her, ‘Magkakamatayan tayo kapag ginamit n’yo ang pangalan ng M.Y.M.P.’ “
This is a media spin by, you can guess who. Chin actually said, “P___ ___ __, sinulot n’yo na buong banda pati hanapbuhay ko gusto n’yong solohin? Mamamatay muna ako bago n’yo magamit ang pangalan ng MYMP, na para sa ina ko.”
That’s what Chin said. I was there. Don’t rewrite the history of MYMP.
H) Mr. Lo continues in the same paragraph, “…But what’s in a name?…”
Has he conveniently forgetten how Arnel Pineda had been singing for 20 years without getting anywhere, until he hooked up with Journey? It was also true with Brix Ferraris, whose voice deserves international acclaim. How did he fare without South Border? How about the very talented Top Suzara when he split with Free Style?
Of course, Nina has a much different voice pitch and persona compared to Juris. Nina is Nina. She is a natural stand alone. Let’s watch how this debate unravels.
I) Mr. Lo continues further in the same paragraph, “…The people are after Juris’ voice, not so much the duo’s name. She will sound just as well even under another name.”
Yeah, sure. Nina knows the source of Juris’ dissimulated advantage. And so does Kyla, Jimmy Bondoc, Paolo Santos, Pido, and other contemporaries of the three female competitors.
Mr. Lo needs a more in-depth analysis of the success of MYMP. Ms. Barbara Barbaro of PUP, Manila, stirringly commented on this, also somewhere in the Internet. But her comment no. 8 was scandalous, to say the least. Juris must not be exposed this way. Ms. Barbaro’s comment no. 8, somehow, clouded her factual and incisive commentary. Her anger got the better of her.
At the end of the article, Mr. Noel Ferrer even gave assurances concerning Juris, that spoke a lot about symbiotic relationships. Enough said.
Juris quit the duo after Chin “booted” her and her manager Carla Lozada out due to disagreement over an “exposure” in the A.S.A.P. Sessionista.
Juris is slated to launch her long-overdue solo album under Star Records, with five songs produced by Chin. The other original cuts were done by Jimmy Antiporda, Ryan Cayabyab and Gary Valenciano.
But still, Juris and Chin still have commitments as a duo until end of this year and they will honor them.
Now supporters of the duo comprising the famous singing group, Juris and Chin, are sharing their thoughts about the issue, and the allegations regarding the break-up. We received an email thru our Facebook account covering the two sides of the splitsville, one from a supporter of Juris, the other from a supporter of Chin. Sino ba ang mapagkakatiwalaan at dapat nating simpatiyahan?
Read the two sides of the story and you decide!
Subject: “JURIS ABANDONS MYMP. MYMP MOVES ON WITH A NEW SINGER.”
Comments on the Internet of Barbara Barbaro of PUP, Manila. Reprinted by a friend.
1) Walang kamoti-motibo si Chin para mag threaten kay Juris o kay Carla Lozada man:
A) Si Chin pa nga ang nag-encourage kay Juris na mag-record ng isang solo album, for the sake of variety, because Chin believed in Juris more than Juris believed in herself. Alam ng mga close friends nila yan. Chin is the producer of Juris’ soon-to-be released solo album.
B) Kilala sa band circle ang pagkabatikan ni Chin sa pag self-evolve ng mga bandang pinamunuan niya, from rock band, to show band, to acoustic band, and back to full band. Kasama na dito ang subok na kakayahan niyang mag-arrange ng love songs, soul music, RnB, jazz, at light rock.
C) Hindi maikakaila ang “craftiness” ni Chin sa pagsanay at pagpapatingkad ng talento ng sinumang mapili niyang bokalista, babae man o lalaki. Iyan ay hindi nagawa ng mga dating nakabanda ni Juris.
Kaya mahirap paniwalaan ang naturang bintang. Ang alam ko ay madaling natanggap ni Chin ang eventual departure of, but not the deplorable and high-handed treatment he received from, Carla and Juris. He has bigger and novel ideas to pursue as founder and leader of MYMP.
2) Ngayong malapit ng i-release ang solo album ni Juris, huwag namang gumamit ng threat-gimmick promotion ang mga handlers ni Juris at Chin’s expense.
3) Itong si manager Carla Lozada ay talagang natuto nang mag-dirty tricks buhat ng magka-boyfriend, na anak ng isang ABS-CBN bigwig, na inagaw niya kahit malapit na sanang ikasal yung lalaki.
4) Below the belt yang threat-gimmick promotion na iyan. Minahal din ni Chin si Carla. They lived-in for more than 4 years. During those years ay kinupkop si Carla ng pamilya ni Chin at itinuring na higit pa sa isang miyembro ng pamilya, hanggang sa lumaki ang kita niya upang makaupa na ng apartment. Kahit bukod na sila ng bahay ay may ilang taon pa rin silang on. Chin moved on after their breakup. He is moving on now, after professionally breaking up with Juris, and will continue to evolve like many times before when he parted with Nina, Brix Ferraris, Jimmy Bondoc, Fritz Ednacot, etc. Said partings happened without the pompous maneuverings (pagmamarangya) ng mga handlers ni Juris.
5) Wala namang ganyanan. Kaya tinanggal si Chin ay dahil hindi na niya masikmura silently ang pandidikta sa kanya ng mga planong patungo na sa kabakyaan na naayon sa manipulation ni Carla at ng kanyang mga co-conspirators. Sanay na sanay na nga si Chin sa pag-o-organize at pagre-reorganize ng mga banda. Ang ginagawa ng mga handlers ni Juris ay nilalagyan ng media spin ang sulsol nilang mag-solo na agad si Juris, at si Chin ang fantasy villain sa media spin. We don’t want that to happen, do we?
6) Sinong may matinong pag-iisip ang maniniwalang coincidence lamang ang nalalapit na launching ng solo album ni Juris sa paglabas ng mahalay na threat-gimmick promotion na iyan?
7) Bakit pa magde-demanda si Chin? Eh, di lalong magkaka-media mileage yang threat-gimmick promotion nila, at sa mas murang halaga pa. At isa pa, madaling palusutin ng corporate lawyer ng mga bumu-bully kay Chin na wala daw malice ang PR writer, diyaryo, at source (sic). Even the lawyers of Chin say, “We will be playing into their hands kapag nagdemanda tayo. Who wouldn’t see through their gimmick, anyway?”
8) Alam ng mga fans na naging very protective, like an elder brother, si Chin kay Juris sa mga madilim na panahon noong sinalbahe si Juris ng nakarelasyon niyang kabanda na two-timer; noong may boyfriend siyang may asawa na, during her senior year in college; at, noon din may karelasyon siyang Cebu DJ na may girlfriend na noon.
9) Chin believes that his and Juris’ talents are enough to make the solo album project (not this messy start of her solo career) a success. Kaya tigilan na iyang counter-productive na threat-gimmick promotion na iyan. Siguradong magba-backfire lang yan.
10) Remember what Chin said just recently to his sympathizers, “All good things come to an end. Every ending is a beginning…I’ve forgiven them.”
Subject: “THE TRUTH BEHIND MYMP’S SUPPOSED BREAK UP.”
Comment of Cold Water Douser on Ricardo Lo’s article
A) Mr. Lo’s title is misleading. MYMP didn’t break up —-Juris wanted to go solo with the confirmed urging of Carla and her backers. It is natural for well established bands to periodically change its members or reorganize, and this is such a period. Chin was the victim of a coup de tat.
B) Mr. Lo wrote, “…Noel (Ferrer) called up the manager to congratulate him (it’s a her, Carla Lozada, not a him) and MYMP and that’s when he got a little shocker.”
Obviously, neither Noel Ferrer nor Ricardo Lo were in the know about the past three month’s ramblings between Chin and Carla, to become “a little shocked.” However, if they were quite knowledgeable of such ramblings, the word “shocker” suits a questionable purpose to be consumed by fans.
C) “Nalungkot ako,” sighed Noel. This sighing implies regret. But if Mr. Ferrer is a friend of Carla from whom she asked the favour to receive an important possible award, weren’t they that close to have shared “shocking” inside info months before?
D) Mr. Lo wrote, “Juris quit the duo after Chin “booted” her and manager Carla Lozada out due to disagreement over an “exposure” in the A.S.A.P. Sessionista.”
How can Mr. Lo say, “quit…after being booted out?” It’s a contradiction. Mr. Lo purveys Juris’ quitting as a reaction to her being booted out. But, if a person was allegedly booted out, how can a booted-out person still quit? A booted out person must either accept it, or protest it. The use of the word “booted out”, again, suites a questionable purpose putting Chin in a very bad light.
How could have Chin possibly “booted out” two members, only to be left alone by all? He did no booting out. He was the victim of a coup de tat. And we all know that a coup de tat does not occur overnight. It involves planning supported by co-conspirators. Who were they? Hmm. Hmm.
E) Mr. Lo wrote, “Added Noel, ‘Juris is slated to launch her long overdue solo album under Star Records, with five songs produced by Chin’…” There we have it! That’s the crux! Close MYMP fans know that Chin was the evolver of the band’s recording genre: from acoustic recordings (2 CDs) then to full band recordings (which comprised the rest of MYMP’s CDs). Chin wanted to produce, since a year ago, a solo album of Juris as a continuation of his evolution, for listening variety. Chin wanted a Juris solo album project, not an immediate Juris solo career.
That was Chin’s mistake. This is now all about money for every lurking predator. Remember what Juris said in a broad sheet? She declared then, “My recording career started with MYMP. It will end with MYMP.” Would Carla and her co-conspirators stop luring Juris after she said that? The Beatles sang, “The best things in life are free, but you can give that to the birds and bees. Just give me money…”
F) Mr. Lo wrote, “No, Juris won’t be using her M.Y.M.P. ‘connections’ anymore.”
The so-called MYMP connections are constantly being used by Carla Lozada, not by Chin nor Juris. She controls the bookings of the band. Chin simply overheard Carla transacting with a prospective client saying something to this effect, “…Ok lang, kahit split na kami, buong banda pa rin ang tututog sa concert ninyo, at huwag kayong mag-aalala na baka masira ang expectations ng mga sponsors at ticket buyers. Di na kailangang palitan pa ang mga tarpaulin at baguhin ang mga advertisements.”
G) Mr. Lo wrote, “According to Noel, Chin told her, ‘Magkakamatayan tayo kapag ginamit n’yo ang pangalan ng M.Y.M.P.’ “
This is a media spin by, you can guess who. Chin actually said, “P___ ___ __, sinulot n’yo na buong banda pati hanapbuhay ko gusto n’yong solohin? Mamamatay muna ako bago n’yo magamit ang pangalan ng MYMP, na para sa ina ko.”
That’s what Chin said. I was there. Don’t rewrite the history of MYMP.
H) Mr. Lo continues in the same paragraph, “…But what’s in a name?…”
Has he conveniently forgetten how Arnel Pineda had been singing for 20 years without getting anywhere, until he hooked up with Journey? It was also true with Brix Ferraris, whose voice deserves international acclaim. How did he fare without South Border? How about the very talented Top Suzara when he split with Free Style?
Of course, Nina has a much different voice pitch and persona compared to Juris. Nina is Nina. She is a natural stand alone. Let’s watch how this debate unravels.
I) Mr. Lo continues further in the same paragraph, “…The people are after Juris’ voice, not so much the duo’s name. She will sound just as well even under another name.”
Yeah, sure. Nina knows the source of Juris’ dissimulated advantage. And so does Kyla, Jimmy Bondoc, Paolo Santos, Pido, and other contemporaries of the three female competitors.
Mr. Lo needs a more in-depth analysis of the success of MYMP. Ms. Barbara Barbaro of PUP, Manila, stirringly commented on this, also somewhere in the Internet. But her comment no. 8 was scandalous, to say the least. Juris must not be exposed this way. Ms. Barbaro’s comment no. 8, somehow, clouded her factual and incisive commentary. Her anger got the better of her.
At the end of the article, Mr. Noel Ferrer even gave assurances concerning Juris, that spoke a lot about symbiotic relationships. Enough said.
source: www.accesspinoy.com
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2 comments:
masyado ka namang bilib sa sarili mo para magsolo, girl!
anu naman binatbat mo kay sarah? kay nina?
total performer ka dapat e ni 1/3 wala ka.
sino namang nambola at nakapagconvince sayong magsolo in the first place?
iuntog mo kaya yang malaki mong ulo ng sampung beses at baka sakaling mabawasan ang ere at magising ka?
what a laugh!
Copied from another site, from Maria Carla "KAI" B. Lozada-Concio daw. yung former manager ng MYMP na ngayong nagmamanage kay JURIS who? (bisayang-bisaya pala talaga siya ano?)
excuse me matalino ako! magaling ako magmanipola ng tao. kita nyo napag-away ko si juris at chen? magaling ako sa pera. kita nyo ang yaman ko at madami akong are-arean sa cebo? ingget lang talaga kayo kasi naprove nyong matalino talaga ako nung pinikot ko yong anak ni mam charo santos. wala na kayong magagawa sobrang yaman ko na ngayon. lahat kaya kong bayaran. hindi nyo na ako kayang banggaen. concio nako eh. kong gosto nyo tolaran nyoko. magpraktes kayo. magpabahay muna kayo sa mga politeko. perahan nyo ng hosto. magnakaw kayo sa cash register ng red ribbon katolad ng ginawa ko noon kaso nga lang nahule ako kaya ako nasisanti. kindatan nyo lahat ng mukang madatong sa ratsky. landeen nyo lahat ng mga derektur at prudocers katolad ng ginawaga ko para magkaruun ng show si jores. lahat ng herap na yan denaanan ku kaya wag na wag nyo akung kokotyain. paraparaan lang yan. ngayun sana matoto na kayung mga losers kayo! tigilan nyu aku!!!!!!
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